When I got a license by exemination, so to speak, in after I P. They even asked in before this austere board, didn't quia me on the facts. I could make up anything. Howell who wae Professor I had of Physiology said that I needn't take any more. Howell excused me frm physiology, but permitted ne to put all that ti h which Dr, Hawell made such a great nane for himself, Well, I spent a par-all of the time that I could put in-in a little room in his laboratory.
It woe lived up too When I got P Naturally-he outlined the problem. He guided every step, and it was reallyawell, he should be first as senior author. When he went o er the manuscript he changed it a great deal, or edited it, and he took his nam off, jh Hawa that is what a lot of professor6 don't do. When they have a student taldng a degree, a F'h D, or whatnot, I know some of them Just insist on putting their nam8 on all. I What sort ef fellow was he?
He was a great big Swede, I think-or Norwegian, a big, rawbone wan about six feet two, striong 8s the deuce, chewing a pipe stem all the time and very incisire in everything he said, firm in his opinion, opinionated, a big voice, and he was a leadero J A pied pipar, Haw was he uith students?
I took a cow88 there in bacteriology with-well, his name will come to me later on [bofessor Borrnan MaeLeod Harrige course.
He wad a Canadian man who was a quiet, ehy sort of person, taught a routine bacteriology courie, but I ciidntt get into bacteriology because of thato there to Chicago in , QS I visiting Professor in Bacterioloa, and I will tell you about hw that resulted In my being offered a pro It was P nice interesting I 1'11 take that up with you later. Itn a curious thing, I went back and why I didntt take it.
Last tiane ue got you through the period of i erest, but dissatisfaction at 'pulano, the break through in communlcatlan between yourself and Uncle George and "Tante E" about Hopkins, and therewas no probleraa-suddenly you were all singlng the same song. Welchrs letter to gout "If you meet the requiremenksw. Well, you did more than meet the requirementa. This was because I wanted to gs into the second par without losing a yeao Then there was this fascinating aside into architecture that all but Right.
But at amy events you finally got to Hopkina, spoiled a derby hat, but were very gently received. I guess the preparation for going and staying at Hopkins, studyiKg at HopWns-as you indicated last time-had been in your mind a long time 0 - Y Well, here you are. You're there. Baltiaore is an old frlead to you. Here you are with continuity, and I'd like you to talk about the city, the atmosphere, the general shape of thing! Evolution of the Hor8ee There was more present than Marsh's. Dr, Welch lived, Sto Fad.
Street, but I did have some kind of a letter I don't remember how I went to the house where either to hbn, or to the housekeeper of that house that made it poasible for me to get a room there. Welch lived, and I occupied that room on the third floor just over his bed room for the next three years. This was a great, wonderful thine; for me becausr I place Dr.
Welch with the great people of the world. I adaDired him emomoasly, and he waa alwap very good to me in net a condoreending fashion, but curiously enough with his gentility and his great knowledge of poplo, he treated this incoming student at3 a colleagueo The lady who kept the houae was Miss nary Simmons, a tall, thin, austere sort of person with a most kindly heart, but an Inperions demeanor, and BS soon as I got the room and she was giving me a latch key to the door, she said to nmIfqPouw man8 if you come back tc this house any night and you can't get this key in the lock, if pa are rich, gon can go to your clube you go to the statioa' If you're poor, Pretty auatereo Miss Simtuorw, I think, also managed Dr, Welch who was a bachelor, in a sanewhat similar kindly and strict manner.
He rang the bo1 and ahe said,"I went to the door to tell hipn what I thought abeut tbis, but he was 88 sweeto He put in my arm It also shows something of Miss Sinrmonat dis- Did you warm te him? Were you en rapport with him? With Ik, Welch? Oh yes9 I talked to Dr.
Welch quite freely, but laost respectfully all the tine because he was the molder ofthe Hopkina wecUcal school, the great feunder of all the modern foundation support of medical education. He knew Mr, Frederick T. Gates very well who was the man who influenced Hr, Rockefeller to give the noneyo Let me continue with Dr. Welch just a little on some lainor anecdotes. All the people that viaited the medical school froar abr ad, people of av come- quenue, would call on Dro Welch, and he entertained most of them at the Harp laad Club, wonderful dinnerso He took ne tomveral, but I hopperasd to 88e one night 9s I went by his door how he was prepariag for the dinnero He had a ran frm South Africa, and I noticed that; Dr, Welch while putting on his tuxedo, had propped on his bureau the Bnclyclopedfr Britsnnica.
Melch, and Dre Welch began on that article with paragraph one and said 4 I think 1 may have It was turned to the article on I went up stairs and read that arttcle too bfsre the dinnere. I picked up paragraph two, and Dr. He waa in his 85th year. He was born in , and he was dying of a cancer in the Brady Urological Institute.
Thatwrs the first time that they began to get at the size of viru8es like poliomyelitis virus and otherso or so before he died, and hemcited the whole of that article on Elferd filterso Iremember sitting by the sid of Dre Welch's bed the day 4 That'e the way he waso. Thayer, and always Dro Welch, Dr. When Dr, Harvey Cushing wouldn't take the job, Dr.
Welch took thig on-oh, in hi8 80th year, I believeo He went abroad and bough? He just bought books and greatly exceeded the provision that had been made for hi8 purchasesu-hs was a very mild sort of an anperor to hiBpaelfo He was a very Me, portly man with a very large abdonj. He had a system of allowing letters to accumulate on hi8 desk until they got to a certain depth, and then herd put down a layer of newspapers over those and start again, He did.
Hewas neat and tidy as far as his clothes He was hand written. All of his correspondence was hand written. I talked a pear or 80 ago to. Welch typewritten. He did all his Dean's work and hi8 Fouudatienwork in long hand.
That's great organization to keep in mind an idea, That's tidye Let ne ask you if you're doing any collateral reading in connection witb thir? Well, there's a wonderf'ul paper by Dro Harvey Cushing called "The Doctors Welch of Norfolk" which characteri2;es this wonderful Welch doctor faailyo Drc Cushing was formed by Dr, Welch in a way too and admired him tremendously.
Md he have humor? Yes in a way, Well, you didn't malcs any jokes with Dr, Welch.
I urrderstand that, but did he have humor? He had a twinlcle, A twinkle. Wasn't overly serious-just well organiaed in terns of his interest. Yes, he wasn't frivolous. To we he was an Olympian figure.
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A8 a matter of fact, 1'11 confess one thing I did, I put my bed en the third floor mer where I knew his bed was on the second, hoping that some dreams would come up and influence ne. Welch was very fluent in Geman. He wae making discoveries of his OWR in bacteriology at that time. He was one ef the men who introduced medical bacteriology into the United States. He had a wonderful scientific mind, great judgment.
Mall was a tall, sharp spoken man of great intelligence, a Professor of Anatomy, and a man who, really before Dr. Welch, had a vision of the full time system of medicineo He preceded Dr.
Welch, but Dr. Mall had everybody rather frightened becaum he would say such sharp things in a qntlt manner, I can member when I was trying to draw a picture of a brain that had been given to me up in his anatomy course, and it was still covered by the aeninges, the dura mater which is a thick piece of fibrous stuff whichwas almost opaque from the fixative.
Mall watched me or a while, and he said,"I think if you would remove that opaque obstruction, you'd be able to see it betterow 4 I was trying to draw the convolutions of the cerebral part of! Chat's the way he'd talk to yous Like pulling the stopper. He was a man who, as I sey, frightened you soozewhat, but very intelligent, and he had with him a marvelous Associate Professsr named Florence R, Sabin who got to be a great expert on the formation of bloodo to work a little bit in her laboratory for a 91ort time-ahe went while I was at Hopkins to the Rockefeller Instituteo mn the faculty of a wedical schoolo Dr, Mall that women were admitted to the Hopkins Medical School, admitted at first, but the place got in financial difficulty, and Miss Mary Ee Garrett said that she'd give them five hundred thousand dollars if they would admit women on the same footing as men, and they did.
Welch in class? Dr, Welch in class was superbo He didn't recite the textbook on anythingo. Whipple first, and he was followed by Milton C. Winternits-both of whom had tremendous influenee on ray doings. Winternita was succeeded by William Go MacCallum whowas a brilliant man, but theae men all lectured from what they knew.
They didn't recite the book back at you, They supposed you knew it. It's the stme thing, They just t ught Dr. Oh yes, Of course its students were all very much more earnest than they were at Tulane, much better informed. They They admired their professors which.
There were great high ceilings everywhere, not too warm rooms in the winter. They Dr. Welch had a good deal of influence on the FIexners. Itwm Abraham Flexnerts brother, Simon Flexuer, who became the director of the Rockefeller Institute after his work in pathology at Pennsylvania. Simon Flexner from the time they were much younger-you see, Dr, Welch lived a long time, He was born in , snd wetre talking now for me around 19ll--st that time Drr Welch was sixty-one, He came from Louisville, Dr.
Welch knew both Abraham and The rest of the things on the equigment side, it was a period when most of the investigators made their own apparatus, sorts of things, could repair ihstruments,, You couldn't repair microscopes and instruments like thato but you could do a lot of minor stuff, sad Dr.
Welchts own laboratory was very simple. They go at it. He was very good. He didntt do what sane pathologists do in these conferences. Hem8 a gentleman and dealt with the clinical prdessor as if he was a gvntleman too. Some pathologfsts that I hsve known u8e that occasion to vilify and ridicule the other mano They shouldn't because, as I say, they've got the look-in on -what actually was there. It was here in Washingtonwhen he was down hem en the Hoover Camissicme He diad about five years ago, 0 It was some tiae before that. He was down here working on the HsAver Commission, I think it was, to revise the structure of govertnnent, and I saw hiai briefly, but.
Who -8 Dr, Guthrie?